Why so silent – Uyghurs in China

Many people have complained in the past that one thing that is conspicuously missing from this blog is any discussion of the Uyghur people in China. Uyghur are predominantly Muslims and make up about half of all the Muslims in China. Some people have even left rather negative comments about this blog that the blog paints a rather rosy picture of Islam in China. Now that Muslim blogsphere is abuzz on this topic I thought it was high time to address this issue.

One of the main problem with media depictions of the conflict in the West is that the main narrative of the conflict puts Muslims vs. the Chinese as if these are two non-overlapping groups. As I have mentioned before this is not to say that there are some restrictions on the practice of Islam in Xinjiang but this is not the case in rest of China. Thus the reason that I avoided this topic is because unless we can develop a narrative that acknowledges ethno-cultural nature of the conflict while at the same time avoid generalizing to all of Chinese Muslims, a discussion would be counter productive. A case in point is the fact that I have come across some Arab and Desi Muslims who talk about the oppression of Muslims in all of China as if this is the case everywhere in China and as if Muslims in China are a non-differentiated mass. I do not want to downplay the suffering of the Uyghur people but at the same time I do not want to say that this is a conflict between Muslims and Chinese but it is not. One thing can however be said for sure that the demographics of Xinjiang have changed dramatically in the last 50 years and will continue to do so unless something changes. For now lets hope and pray that the Uyghur culture survives and thrives. Perhaps things would have been different if there were more Muslims in China or in positions of influence.

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18 responses to “Why so silent – Uyghurs in China

  1. wait a sec.. Uyghurs make half of all muslims?? that would make around 600 Million Uyghurs?? Wikipedia is stating a number between 11 and 25 Million.. Could you please clarify this point?

  2. Salaam,
    Thank you very much for clarifying these points. I was wondering myself why you hadn’t mentioned the issue before, but would never have gone so far as to leave you negative comments on the same. I do think that your mentioning the subject was very good, however.
    The media does indeed depict the matter as if it is an ethnic struggle between Han and Uyghur, and that doesn’t even sound right, because of course there are Han Muslims as well.
    I have a question, though. You mentioned this: “the demographics of Xinjiang have changed dramatically in the last 50 years.” Can you please explain more?
    Your site is very beautiful, please keep up the good and inspiring work.

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  4. Wang, you should ask these same people where is their outrage when Christians are persecuted by Muslims in Muslim countries? Ever hear of them expressing outrage when al-Qaeda kill off Assyrian Christians in Iraq? Hardly.

    So who are they to accuse you of such when they have no problem staying silent on how some Muslims treat non-Muslims?

    P.S. I am also Muslim and I think you have an amazing blog showcasing how Islam can work with other cultures in harmony, as is the case in China. Cheers.

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  6. In true Islamic countries like Iran, non muslims aren’t prosecuted unless they themselves are crazy fanatics like AL-Queda. So by considering al-queda even a muslim entity is pretty baseless in itself, they aren’t. They go against almost every major pillar in Islam, and thus so aren’t muslim.

    With that said Islam in itself is something that is so harmonious is works well with every culture, in any country, and any place that is willing to accept it. While some elements of culture may conflict with it, those elements aren’t exactly morally correct which is why they conflict such as adultery, fornication, and being a queer.

    Peace be with you.
    -Vahid M.

  7. Listen, muslims are a thorn in the world, their religion doesn’t eat the animal that has the most meat…PORK, they really don’t know what they are missing out on… and then they pray 5 times a day… you think that pervert that rapes little girls is listening?
    Read your islamic books … shut you mouth … you guys don’t contribute enough in this world to have a voice!

    • Wow, dave lives in iraq so he knows a lot about muslims. Just by these few comments you can tell he is one of the world’s last great thinkers.

      Hey dave in Iraq, next time you are counting your toes try to remember from grammer school what those numerals are called.

  8. @ Dave :

    Eating pork is not prohibited by Islam alone but by the Bible too. Jews don’t eat pork and Jesus never ate pork. That you enjoy eating the flesh of the dirtiest animal on earth is your choice but don’t open your mouth in the presence of Muslims who might be disturbed by the filthy smells.

    The whole world has seen what human-porks have done in Abu Gharib.

    Don’t believe your military might makes you better. That’s what Pharao thought of Moses. You should know how the story ended.

  9. One of the main problem with media depictions of the conflict in the West is that the main narrative of the conflict puts Muslims vs. the Chinese as if these are two non-overlapping groups.

    I read that a number of those hurt in the violence were Hui (which I presume means Muslims of non-Uyghur background). Were they hurt by the Uyghurs? Any light you can shed on it would be great.

  10. America has problems with the muslims, Israel has problems with them, Europe, and now China. I guess the whole world is crazy, except for these muslim nations. Which muslim nation has not killed other people of different faiths?? Their killing themselves cause one is sunni and other branches of islam. I’ve been to China and I seen more Mosque, and haleel (muslim food) fast food chains their then in any other nations. Yet they complain about??
    They just want to kill everybody that’s not muslim. We are all the infidels to them. So why go explain which one is a good muslim or a bad one, Just send them to the magic carpet ride to Allah.
    May peace be upon you

  11. Oh Muslims of China your pain and suffering by the hands of the atheist capilatist communist regime is being seen all accross the globe and we the Muslims in UK support you 100% May Allah Bless Islam in China ameen.

    May Allah bless the Muslims in China and May Allah’s punishment and curse be upon the atheist and communist regime .

    Allahu Akbar

  12. America has problems with the muslims, Israel has problems with them, Europe, and now China.

    Funny: That’s what Hitler said about the Jews. Are you suggesting that his reasoning was valid?

    Oh, and want to count how many people have had problems with, say, the US? Try Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Japan, Philippines, and virtually all of South America.

    Which muslim nation has not killed other people of different faiths??

    Let’s see. USA has. The UK has. I’m betting France has as well. Your point?

    Their killing themselves cause one is sunni and other branches of islam.

    Really? Show me the Malaysian Muslims who kill other Muslims because of this.

    I’ve been to China and I seen more Mosque, and haleel (muslim food) fast food chains their then in any other nations. Yet they complain about??

    So you’re saying that if a country gives an ethnic group religious structures and restaurants, they should be allowed to abuse them?

    They just want to kill everybody that’s not muslim.

    Like Niger, Mali and Malaysia do all the time, right?

  13. know may ALLAH bestow his mercy on you and guide you to his straight path the one that he ordered his messenger and slave Muhammed, that the first thing that ALLAH ordered to humanity and jinns is that they worship no one and nothing except ALLAH and to deliberately boycott the worship of any thing and anyone besides ALLAH. and that they worship him only by what HE (ALLAH) revealed to his messengers

    ALLAH ordered his messengers to call to this way which is called Islam .

    Islam means in the arabic language ”submission”

    and in the islamic law ”to submit to ALLAH by worshiping none or no one except him alone without assigning partners with him in worship, and to compile to obedience to him by what he revealed to his messengers of the prohibited and allowed matters,and to boycott every thing and every thing that is worshiped besides him and its people.

    the meaning of faith in Islam is a understanding word comprising every thing (saying, action, belief) that ALLAH loves and is pleased with.

    and the definition of faith in Islam is saying of the tongue
    and belief of the heart and actions of the limbs.

    saying of the tongue like”to certify that none has the right to be worshiped except ALLAH and that Muhammed is his slave and messenger”

    belief in the heart like ”belief in ALLAH and HIS Messengers ,HIS books, HIS Angels, the predestination it’s good and it’s evil and belief in the day of resurrection”and like ”belief in the testification that none has the right to be worshiped except ALLAH and that Muhammed is his slave and messenger with it’s conditions of acceptance

    1 knowledge, the nullifier of ignorance
    2 certainty,the nullifier of dought
    3 acceptance, the nullifier of rejection
    4 compliance, the nullifier abandonment
    5 sincerity the nullifier of assossation (polytheism)
    6 truthfulness the nullifier of falshood
    7love the nullifier of hatred
    8 the rejection and bocott of every thing and any one that is worshiped besides ALLAH

    actions of the limbs like ”prayer five times a day in which we bow and prostrate to ALLAH alone , giving out the obligatry annual charity to the poor , fasting the month of ramadhan , going for the pilgrimage if we have enough money for the trip expenses etc…”

    Know that Muhammed is the last messenger and there seal was revealed to him The Coran which is the confirmation and protection of what was revealed before to the messengers like to Abraham Moses Jesus David Salomon Noah Jonas Lot Job Zacaria John, as a guidance to humanity and jinn . And was revealed to him The Sunnah which is the explanation of The Coran.

    so follow The Coran with it’s explanation, The Sunnah
    and ALLAH guide you and preserve you in the
    hereafter from the fire of hell.

  14. this is an answer to dave from Iraq ; Rape and marriage is not the same thing. Rape destroys just like using women only for sexual desires until they resort to prostitution because they don’t have a husband to take care of them , The Prophet ordered us to get married young so that we don’t fall into problems resorting from sexual desires like fornication and so on . Islam is a humble religion Muslims don’t get married for wealth beauty or lineage but they get married for the persons religion.The rapers are stoned to death in Islam.

    “Narrated Wa’il ibn Hujr: “When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (P) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered [raped] her. She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That [man] did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had had intercourse with her and brought him to her.

    She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Apostle of Allah (P).

    When he [the Prophet] was about to pass sentence, the man who [actually] had assaulted her stood up and said: Apostle of Allah, I am the man who did it to her.

    He [the Prophet] said to her: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. But he told the man some good words [Abu Dawud said: “meaning the man who was seized”], and of the man who had had intercourse with her, he said: “Stone him to death.“

  15. Big point missed here is that Uyghurs are occupied by China. The region called Xinjiang is occupied East Turkistan and not a part of China but a colony no different than when the British/French/Russians occupied Muslim nations.
    The Qing dynasty was funded by Britain to occupy East Turkistan.

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